Mr. Wei Xiaoan both officials, but also a quite good macro-empirical tourism research analysts. His performance, the article with his life experiences and pursuits of flesh and blood. He graduated from the Beijing School of Economics, Finance and Trade Economics Chinese Academy of Social Sciences has been engaged in the tourism economy of the Beijing Tourism Bureau in tourism planning and management. Transferred to the National Tourism Administration in 1988, served as Deputy Director of Policy Research, the Director, Deputy Director of Policy and Regulation Department, travel agents, hotel Management Division, Policy and Regulation Department, Planning and Development and Director of Finance and other staff. In the busy work, Mr. Wei Xiaoan not only his pen stopped, published a lot on them, but also to the unique forward-looking industry executives and experts concerned about the unique sensitivity of the hot issues of the tourism industry, and explore one of the law, trial to answer. In this interview, Mr. Wei Xiaoan starting from its own experience to explain his prospects for tourism development in China's latest thinking, such as the development trend of China's tourism issues, tourism industry, the management of difficult problems, tourism theory with practice problem, the problem of government functions and so on. Conversation discourse insights, rustic peace, not only told of refreshing, and leave it a deeper thought of space.
Reporter: We know you are writing a book on tourism trends in the new century, the book, and although not yet published, but some of the known passages of view is very attractive to us. Can you brief us on the general situation of this book?
I went to the National Tourism Administration for 12 years. Some of the original academic foundation, to the National Tourism Administration after the basic shift, and go to work and the policies and regulations of agencies will come up. Authorities have the advantage of agencies, the most prominent advantage is a real sense of certainty of specific macro and potential. Facing the turn of the century, we are concerned about the trend of tourism development issue that is raised in practice, is a great need to seriously study the issue. It forces us to mind what has accumulated 10 years of
Extracted, it systematic. However, strictly speaking, the most important thing is not forecast the future but to create the future. In other words, the future is created rather than the forecast out. Guidance from the industry perspective, we all wish we could of the new century, China's tourism industry, said the last say. I think, from the perspective of scholarship, the first question is how to grasp a hot industry, to grasp the dynamics of the industry; know that people are concerned about what the difficulties we know where, out of something like this is more close to reality, also be appropriate for the more popular. Although the book - called "China's tourism industry development trend of new century," but in fact the trend is not a lot of things, but the reality of China's tourism development. But from the perspective of the trend, and some became a little weather, and some only just begun. Can take advantage of these new things, and extended it to open, you can save out of something. Writing this book, we do feel very excited, I had not realized the writing of this sense of excitement. The real excitement is in the process of research and writing felt a challenge, a creative; together and Regulation Department, in co-operation of young people, their ideas clearly and for many the new technical stuff with ease. These young people and new technologies is a challenge for me.
Reporter: You have presided over years of the National Tourism Administration Travel Hotel Management Division, will have a deeper feeling. What should be how to understand the current difficulties on the tourism industry management?
Most people think that the tourism industry is the forefront of reform and opening up, reform and opening up is to use the power of the first to benefit, should be a strong sense of reform, a strong sense of openness. But in fact, work on a specific feeling, I think we from macro to micro, not a weak sense conservative. So, are often engaged in our own and their friction. But the general trend does not want to change does not work. So, sometimes in specific operations, RBI is also walking a fine line, this is a strange phenomenon. I think one of two main reasons: one is the original traditions and customs of foreign affairs was still, its performance not only in ideas, but also the relevant departments there is now a conservative concept, which is the crucial issue. Another reason is that from now on, one can say that tourism is more macro-management system in place, which is the objective situation forced us to adapt to the market mechanism on a path of trade management, the tourism industry of the micro-operation mechanism - - tourism enterprises - from the whole, not yet. Adjusting to this whole make us backward. Economic transformation from the capital of modern society to a knowledge economy, from the capitalist transition to "knowledge." Say no money to finance the original, now say there is no money to financial intelligence, financial knowledge, in fact, there are more important to the financial system, in which our existing business system is unreasonable, it is a fundamental problem. That the international competitiveness of tourism enterprises not in the final analysis is not our business system. This enterprise system is not a simple issue of private ownership and public ownership. If privatization is a panacea, we can not explain why the United States each year more than 10 million bankruptcy, the Japanese have 80000 1999 bankruptcy of the phenomenon. So, this is not entirely a private property rights, public issue, the key is whether the property rights system of modern enterprise system. In addition to micro-operational mechanism, but also depends on whether there is a good institutional environment. We are sorely lacking both. No money to develop, you can bring in capital; no talent, you can attract talent; but there is no good system, which is not. Therefore, the real crux of the problem affecting the development, I think here. These two problems are solved, a lot of things will be solved, including our personnel system. Personnel system is a conservative stronghold, which is one of the most fundamental problem. State-owned enterprises do not have a good mechanism for entrepreneurship and the environment, how can this company do a good job? How to engage in e-tourism, travel agents, how to develop, how to engage in networking, and enterprise system compared with these are fur thing, if people have really had a good mechanism, with a real tourist entrepreneurs, they also do with advocacy ? Now look at, information industry, including the person engaging in the network's most elite group, its operating system is fully in line with the market mechanism, not afraid of competition, failed to get up anyway, and then start again.
Reporter: You see the results on tourism research, your own research on how to locate? How do you see the current tourism academic theory and practical on a combination of discussion?
Combination of theory and practice is a matter of course. The gap between theory and practice, I think, theorists and businessmen are two reasons. Can not say that businessmen do not pay attention or decision-making theory, light is not appropriate to blame them; the other hand, researchers can not grasp the "loin", whether the attention is the key. Tourism is an applied academic discipline in the final analysis, application of discipline do you usually need to have confused the issue, said they can not tell them. Now a lot of research in this article, narrative and analysis are clearly and logically, but the actual operator listened to, read no thirst, no fun, this situation should change. Of course, the basic research first do not have to consider decision-making for the business community service, it does not exist "loin", the pursuit of innovative and rigorous theory, the theory itself by the power to enhance their own arguments. In addition to the empirical research, I am afraid to talk about how to handle the "loin" issue. Because we can not be too theoretical for the empirical analysis, and too theoretical an easy read. Sometimes, we need to put theory into the vernacular language of the job, which will gradually form a research style. Of course, this is only one aspect of the matter. As for the tourism and real theory of how subjects combined, I think, from the perspective of the basic theory, theory and the theory itself is derived between the research, one will draw some scientific conclusions, if the theory can not derive some scientific conclusions, then, this highly abstract things can not turn to guide practice. Reach this step, the conclusion would not be called theories. However, the theory must have to have something to withstand the test of practice. As proof of the same geometric axioms.
My research orientation is the empirical analysis of the macro, not micro-analysis is not a theory. Now the work of tension, not reading time, reading the newspaper to supplement the knowledge alone is clearly inadequate. I occasionally get knowledge of the way to squeeze time Aspect book, usually read newspapers and play and chat with others. Long learning through chat is definitely impossible. I plan to write nothing in 2000 to focus more time to read a good book. However, our work with primary links and more, to run around or unavoidable. Grassroots primary run has run the benefits will increase our grasp of the practical work to enhance the real sense, but also to reach out to understand the kinds of people. Such as access to the county magistrate, the county executive and county executive that the difference between too; visit attractions, contact the mayor. Many farmers came from the mayor, the idea of peasant farmers. The actual accumulated in the understanding of the situation will have a real sense. Now, we formulate a policy would have to think about this matter, the Provincial Tourism Bureau will think, deputy director will think, and the management of the Director who will think, Municipal Bureau of Tourism long will think, has been to the hotel, travel agency chiefs will think ... ... front-line employees think. Want to put all these things through, and this policy feasible or not there at the end of the heart. Sometimes a part of the problem does not want to go, it means not to understand this link to find several people familiar talk. Understanding of the situation, and goes like, so, until figured out so far.
In 1994 we developed travel agency quality deposit system that really is repeatedly considered. At that time, it is estimated margin system, if implemented, more than 3,000 domestic travel agencies have revoked 1000, this is not a small number of much deliberation, figured out, the collapse of travel is not transferred to shift, no big deal. Operate after revocation of the 1500 national tour. There was a telephone call several provinces, that this continues our travel agency to revoke the seventies and eighties, involving four to five people, may stimulate a number of social conflicts. I said, "rest assured, we studied, there will never be something if that closure of a factory 500, the governor of the province will follow the anxious, because 500 people did not find a job where dry, and travel agencies four to five people tomorrow job will certainly be dry. " Finally, the 1500 suspension down, calm. One view is that we have not done enough for the management of travel agencies, which I do not recognize. Compared with the world, China's tourism industry and management and is the largest. Of course, that our objective is not a good market order, market order is not good. We are now at the early stage of development of market economy, is now on the market problems, the United States decades ago, and this is a stage of development issues, is not entirely a problem of management efforts. This market to really develop to a certain extent, industry and management and should be weakened rather than strengthened. But views like this, many people do not recognize. I often talk about a point, not afraid of chaos, in the economic transformation, social transformation process, the chaos is inevitable, which is now the industry into chaos? The key is how to look, chaos can not be arbitrary rule, this is the crux of the problem. If they talk about a "disorder", we feel incredible, it was not right, it is the macroeconomic situation and the lack of accurate judgments. We are now, or from chaos to more chaos from chaos to slightly better direction? If the former, the market chaos that we have not yet bottomed out, have to continue chaos, we do anything to do anything; if from chaos to a good direction, this time with our efforts to go soon to see results. Therefore, the enhancement is to grasp the real sense of development of the industry, the development of industry policy.
Reporter: We understand that tourism businesses including hotels, attractions, travel agencies, etc., there are specific issues, problems, you are asked, you can be careful and thoughtful way for solve problems, has a strong sense of service and dedication. In this regard, how do you consider? As a travel industry management department, in its transformation of government functions, it also should be integrated and reflect this for the industry, sense of service for enterprises and service spirit?
I fought out from the grassroots. When 16-year-old worker in a factory for nine years, and later business, for two years. Grass-roots level, I can not have no feelings, the situation can not be of primary concern is not, this is a natural emotion. Although tourism enterprises I have not done directly, but something in business management are interlinked. In the factory, I can achieve this level,
A product, a work site, I glance, immediately know what the problem. Tourism business is the same, but need a little more familiar with the situation, to see things a little more, deeper. The most important point here is to see you are not concerned about the business, from a business perspective to the problem. Management Division of the reason why I scolded suffer less, this is an important reason. I find people to talk about things that they meet the policy, not two, then positive to do, even if not accomplish, but also trying to explain why people can not accomplish, but also for his ideas, and strive to accomplishing. Thus, it is not accomplishing, people can understand. In this regard, I told the Secretary in the other comrades made it very clear: "the fault of the rest of you I can tolerate, however, localities and enterprises come to work, you put on bureaucratic airs here, I can not stand." Seat of power in a little a long time people are likely to blur, do not know others in this respect he was respecting the seat. Because of my experience of this life, I consider these issues and more concerned about the grass roots. So talk with business people, the total comes to corporate topic of concern. Concern because people are always concerns you, you always talk about the topic and the topic of everyone's attention, therefore, we are willing to tell you. In fact, standing on the macro-management point of view, layer by layer down to, what issues concern layer which will naturally together, and it is natural to form some of the macro view. As for the issue of government functions, is still difficult, it's difficult concept. We already accustomed to hard to throw away the traditional management concepts and management tools. Institutional reform, decoupling between government and enterprises, including the Association of adjustment, the central step that moves a few steps further than the tight, forcing the functions of government agencies had to convert, nothing in this organization you must cancel. However, this transformation of government functions is indeed more difficult, the original set of methods used to die, they do not recognize the new way, Gordon does not come out. In this era, many new things need to create, if not a profound understanding of things, they create it out. The functions of the conversion, the content is definitely less and less manageable, especially micro-management of the content will be less and less, while the macro-management will be strengthened. This does not mean do not the means of administration. Government is the basic means of administrative measures, administrative measures not no where the key is to control what should be clear. There is a saying the original evaluation of the ministries in charge, "nine-foot energy management, energy management a sub-world." As a minister, should be very effort to control the world, it in fact can not, because some of the ministries also have their own subordinate enterprises and institutions to control, control their own feet to spend energy, time and more, the functions of the corresponding ministries of industry to be greatly weakened. Tube foot of the effort is spent and more, this work is not competent ministries. Should not control, control bad things are in the pipe, and the tube and be able to manage a good thing but no matter. Therefore, the State Department's institutional reform, transformation of functions is a very wise decision, but for now, want to completely change over 三下五除二 is unlikely, this requires a process. Now the macro-management of some distorted state, on the surface are in place, in fact, not fully in place, no place is the function key is not in place. In my opinion, the real transformation of government functions have been two generations of effort.
Reporter: Policy and Regulation Department have a lot of work related to the tourism industry development policy, the industry is very concerned about this, can you please talk about the work currently being done what?
We do have three major tasks. First of all, we're doing work on two industrial development. First, the need to systematically demonstrate how to build tourist destination, how to travel power, and how economic growth from the development of pillar industry of national economy. Currently, we are doing on this issue report needs to articulate substantive arguments, but in fact the subject is by no means a report that can be covered by the support of this theme should be a book, with a system to prove the book; also includes China's tourism industry in the international competitiveness of the evaluation and other industries in the country and the competitiveness between the evaluation. Second, the national tourism industry policy. This work has been done a long time, originally planned to be introduced in late 1999, but the national debt Economic and Trade Commission of Industrial Policy busy work, so the tourism industry policy-making had to back up. Development of industrial development policy is a major event industry, the industry is indeed good. Our numerous experiences of finding State Economic and Trade Industrial Policy on this matter, they are deeply touched and said "rarely see a department for the industry got the idea of industrial policy so we admire the spirit of your work, and actively support you."
Secondly, the travel regulations of the building. Although a lot of effort, the recent introduction of "Tourism Law" is still no hope. In August 1998, I went back to the Secretary policies and regulations to visit the first thing after the State Council Legislative Affairs Office, Bureau of Legislative Affairs and comrades on "Tourism Law" project, but so far little progress. We now have more than 20 provinces and cities issued a comprehensive travel regulations, which is equivalent to the provincial level, tourism law, does our 31 provinces have issued a travel law, the country's tourism Dafa be introduced? That guide how to reflect? Our current thinking is to strive to "Travel Act" introduced in early work will continue to do, but may wish to re-adjust the legislative ideas. The main consideration is to manage the original method, it now appears, the more management law, the greater the difficulty of the introduction, so now the idea is to promote the law a mess, mess, or a comprehensive industry regulations. The first is to have the content to promote tourism development, including promotion of tourism development policy content, to make policy up to the height of the law; second is to have management aspects; Third, there must be coordination related to tourism those rights and interests of civil law, commercial law and other aspects. To operate at three levels so, "Travel Law" will be a comprehensive law, not a mere department of law. We hope the comprehensive nature of the NPC Law direct project, drafting. At the same time, we are also accelerating the development of those industries related to the development of the State Council regulations pace. Is seeking to "tourism accommodation industry regulations," the project, if successful, can solve many problems in the development of the industry. "Guide Regulations" is important, but at best 10 million to tourism industry issues, and the "tourist accommodation industry regulations" Once developed, we can solve the problem of 100 million people. Now the legislative process is very long, according to the previous operating cycle, if the winter and next spring to project, three years before the introduction. In fact, the text itself is not complicated, cumbersome to coordinate views, which is actually a department of the coordination process the balance of powers process, but also a process of redistribution of power to the relevant departments. In short, we consider a two-pronged, through various forms, a variety of ways, striving for the "Travel Act" project; the same time, the State Council should actively seek to develop regulations to achieve. Worrying is that now more and more problems of law enforcement, law enforcement system is still not appropriate to establish a sound. National Tourism Administration in 1998 to do a few period of travel law enforcement classes, made a tour enforcement permits, are all to do over, but the problems in this regard reflects the still relatively large. Again, the tourism statistics. In this regard, we now form some of the big ideas, of course, it is very difficult to do, but once the breakthrough will make a fundamental change in the tourism industry. The first step is to fight for the tourism statistical indicators system into which the entire national economic accounting system. We now perform the travel survey system called the National Tourism Survey system has been incorporated into national statistical office. Although the state system, but not the formation of things into national economic accounting system. Some economists, statisticians, many of the other corners of the industry's research into the problems, why he can not study so much an emerging tourism industry? The reason is simple, no data. We now say they do not recognize the data, because there is no formally incorporated into national economic accounting system, so now that we are our own tourism industry this all day long about how good that how good, how have the advantage, how to have potential. If this problem is not solved, in fact, not as a tourist power also stand up tourism as a pillar industry of national economy also does not stand up. Another problem associated with this is that if at this point to a breakthrough, we can further statistics of the contribution of tourism to the national economy, that we should pull the power of tourism on economic growth gradually quantified. For example, the foreign trade sector can be said that economic growth in 1998, 7.8 percentage points in a point is driven trade, construction sector can be said that there are 7.8 percentage points from 1.7 points in the real estate driven. We say 7.8 percentage points in a point is a tourist pull it? We can only say that 4.32% of GDP. What is "equivalent", strictly speaking circles in the national accounts is not you, you and others cling to the outside circle. Therefore, it is imperative to establish the contribution of tourism to the national economy this indicator. To establish this indicator is difficult, where the first thing needed is a basic theoretical research and breakthroughs. Statistical theory is now based on tourism research article also minimal. Yesterday, the People's University professor called and said they recently set up a more internationally competitive center, want to take the tourism industry as a pilot to study the international competitiveness of the tourism industry. I said, "Well, we are studying this matter." However, the majority of our study is limited feature articles, feature article, analysis is by the addition cases to illustrate the problem, there is no system, a solid foundation of statistical theory, this is the case alone can not explain, because any one industry can be used Case
For their own good. There is also a tourism statistics and how our current national economic accounting system integration issues.
In addition to the specific work, policies and regulations of the Secretary there are many daily work. There are only four publications on the compilation of the central "tour
Travel News ", the local Tourism Bureau's" tourist information "on the industry," Tourism Research ", and an internal, provided by the Secretary for" research reference. " Workload, the pressure is also large, forcing the boys we Law Department to work overtime every day, are overloaded.
Reporter: We are faced with new 21st century, you can look ahead at the new century, China's tourism development prospects?
Last week, the bureau set up associations to discuss the national tourism working conference of the main report (second draft), to discuss the details of the time does not rigidly adhere to the study, mainly to discuss ideas. This will open exciting too, was clearly a big idea is that over the past 20 years of development, we have become a tourist destination, in the next 20 years we want to build a travel power. Internationally, we travel from country to travel great power; in the country than with the industry, we need economic growth point status to become a new pillar industries. Now out of the third draft of the basic tone in accordance to write this. If these two words can be unchanging, and can be industry-wide acceptance, I think this should be the next century, China's tourism development in a very clear idea. Various aspects of the work around these two words can do the article. From the development prospects, said two words to seize the issue I think is enough.
Reporter: We know you are writing a book on tourism trends in the new century, the book, and although not yet published, but some of the known passages of view is very attractive to us. Can you brief us on the general situation of this book?
I went to the National Tourism Administration for 12 years. Some of the original academic foundation, to the National Tourism Administration after the basic shift, and go to work and the policies and regulations of agencies will come up. Authorities have the advantage of agencies, the most prominent advantage is a real sense of certainty of specific macro and potential. Facing the turn of the century, we are concerned about the trend of tourism development issue that is raised in practice, is a great need to seriously study the issue. It forces us to mind what has accumulated 10 years of
Extracted, it systematic. However, strictly speaking, the most important thing is not forecast the future but to create the future. In other words, the future is created rather than the forecast out. Guidance from the industry perspective, we all wish we could of the new century, China's tourism industry, said the last say. I think, from the perspective of scholarship, the first question is how to grasp a hot industry, to grasp the dynamics of the industry; know that people are concerned about what the difficulties we know where, out of something like this is more close to reality, also be appropriate for the more popular. Although the book - called "China's tourism industry development trend of new century," but in fact the trend is not a lot of things, but the reality of China's tourism development. But from the perspective of the trend, and some became a little weather, and some only just begun. Can take advantage of these new things, and extended it to open, you can save out of something. Writing this book, we do feel very excited, I had not realized the writing of this sense of excitement. The real excitement is in the process of research and writing felt a challenge, a creative; together and Regulation Department, in co-operation of young people, their ideas clearly and for many the new technical stuff with ease. These young people and new technologies is a challenge for me.
Reporter: You have presided over years of the National Tourism Administration Travel Hotel Management Division, will have a deeper feeling. What should be how to understand the current difficulties on the tourism industry management?
Most people think that the tourism industry is the forefront of reform and opening up, reform and opening up is to use the power of the first to benefit, should be a strong sense of reform, a strong sense of openness. But in fact, work on a specific feeling, I think we from macro to micro, not a weak sense conservative. So, are often engaged in our own and their friction. But the general trend does not want to change does not work. So, sometimes in specific operations, RBI is also walking a fine line, this is a strange phenomenon. I think one of two main reasons: one is the original traditions and customs of foreign affairs was still, its performance not only in ideas, but also the relevant departments there is now a conservative concept, which is the crucial issue. Another reason is that from now on, one can say that tourism is more macro-management system in place, which is the objective situation forced us to adapt to the market mechanism on a path of trade management, the tourism industry of the micro-operation mechanism - - tourism enterprises - from the whole, not yet. Adjusting to this whole make us backward. Economic transformation from the capital of modern society to a knowledge economy, from the capitalist transition to "knowledge." Say no money to finance the original, now say there is no money to financial intelligence, financial knowledge, in fact, there are more important to the financial system, in which our existing business system is unreasonable, it is a fundamental problem. That the international competitiveness of tourism enterprises not in the final analysis is not our business system. This enterprise system is not a simple issue of private ownership and public ownership. If privatization is a panacea, we can not explain why the United States each year more than 10 million bankruptcy, the Japanese have 80000 1999 bankruptcy of the phenomenon. So, this is not entirely a private property rights, public issue, the key is whether the property rights system of modern enterprise system. In addition to micro-operational mechanism, but also depends on whether there is a good institutional environment. We are sorely lacking both. No money to develop, you can bring in capital; no talent, you can attract talent; but there is no good system, which is not. Therefore, the real crux of the problem affecting the development, I think here. These two problems are solved, a lot of things will be solved, including our personnel system. Personnel system is a conservative stronghold, which is one of the most fundamental problem. State-owned enterprises do not have a good mechanism for entrepreneurship and the environment, how can this company do a good job? How to engage in e-tourism, travel agents, how to develop, how to engage in networking, and enterprise system compared with these are fur thing, if people have really had a good mechanism, with a real tourist entrepreneurs, they also do with advocacy ? Now look at, information industry, including the person engaging in the network's most elite group, its operating system is fully in line with the market mechanism, not afraid of competition, failed to get up anyway, and then start again.
Reporter: You see the results on tourism research, your own research on how to locate? How do you see the current tourism academic theory and practical on a combination of discussion?
Combination of theory and practice is a matter of course. The gap between theory and practice, I think, theorists and businessmen are two reasons. Can not say that businessmen do not pay attention or decision-making theory, light is not appropriate to blame them; the other hand, researchers can not grasp the "loin", whether the attention is the key. Tourism is an applied academic discipline in the final analysis, application of discipline do you usually need to have confused the issue, said they can not tell them. Now a lot of research in this article, narrative and analysis are clearly and logically, but the actual operator listened to, read no thirst, no fun, this situation should change. Of course, the basic research first do not have to consider decision-making for the business community service, it does not exist "loin", the pursuit of innovative and rigorous theory, the theory itself by the power to enhance their own arguments. In addition to the empirical research, I am afraid to talk about how to handle the "loin" issue. Because we can not be too theoretical for the empirical analysis, and too theoretical an easy read. Sometimes, we need to put theory into the vernacular language of the job, which will gradually form a research style. Of course, this is only one aspect of the matter. As for the tourism and real theory of how subjects combined, I think, from the perspective of the basic theory, theory and the theory itself is derived between the research, one will draw some scientific conclusions, if the theory can not derive some scientific conclusions, then, this highly abstract things can not turn to guide practice. Reach this step, the conclusion would not be called theories. However, the theory must have to have something to withstand the test of practice. As proof of the same geometric axioms.
My research orientation is the empirical analysis of the macro, not micro-analysis is not a theory. Now the work of tension, not reading time, reading the newspaper to supplement the knowledge alone is clearly inadequate. I occasionally get knowledge of the way to squeeze time Aspect book, usually read newspapers and play and chat with others. Long learning through chat is definitely impossible. I plan to write nothing in 2000 to focus more time to read a good book. However, our work with primary links and more, to run around or unavoidable. Grassroots primary run has run the benefits will increase our grasp of the practical work to enhance the real sense, but also to reach out to understand the kinds of people. Such as access to the county magistrate, the county executive and county executive that the difference between too; visit attractions, contact the mayor. Many farmers came from the mayor, the idea of peasant farmers. The actual accumulated in the understanding of the situation will have a real sense. Now, we formulate a policy would have to think about this matter, the Provincial Tourism Bureau will think, deputy director will think, and the management of the Director who will think, Municipal Bureau of Tourism long will think, has been to the hotel, travel agency chiefs will think ... ... front-line employees think. Want to put all these things through, and this policy feasible or not there at the end of the heart. Sometimes a part of the problem does not want to go, it means not to understand this link to find several people familiar talk. Understanding of the situation, and goes like, so, until figured out so far.
In 1994 we developed travel agency quality deposit system that really is repeatedly considered. At that time, it is estimated margin system, if implemented, more than 3,000 domestic travel agencies have revoked 1000, this is not a small number of much deliberation, figured out, the collapse of travel is not transferred to shift, no big deal. Operate after revocation of the 1500 national tour. There was a telephone call several provinces, that this continues our travel agency to revoke the seventies and eighties, involving four to five people, may stimulate a number of social conflicts. I said, "rest assured, we studied, there will never be something if that closure of a factory 500, the governor of the province will follow the anxious, because 500 people did not find a job where dry, and travel agencies four to five people tomorrow job will certainly be dry. " Finally, the 1500 suspension down, calm. One view is that we have not done enough for the management of travel agencies, which I do not recognize. Compared with the world, China's tourism industry and management and is the largest. Of course, that our objective is not a good market order, market order is not good. We are now at the early stage of development of market economy, is now on the market problems, the United States decades ago, and this is a stage of development issues, is not entirely a problem of management efforts. This market to really develop to a certain extent, industry and management and should be weakened rather than strengthened. But views like this, many people do not recognize. I often talk about a point, not afraid of chaos, in the economic transformation, social transformation process, the chaos is inevitable, which is now the industry into chaos? The key is how to look, chaos can not be arbitrary rule, this is the crux of the problem. If they talk about a "disorder", we feel incredible, it was not right, it is the macroeconomic situation and the lack of accurate judgments. We are now, or from chaos to more chaos from chaos to slightly better direction? If the former, the market chaos that we have not yet bottomed out, have to continue chaos, we do anything to do anything; if from chaos to a good direction, this time with our efforts to go soon to see results. Therefore, the enhancement is to grasp the real sense of development of the industry, the development of industry policy.
Reporter: We understand that tourism businesses including hotels, attractions, travel agencies, etc., there are specific issues, problems, you are asked, you can be careful and thoughtful way for solve problems, has a strong sense of service and dedication. In this regard, how do you consider? As a travel industry management department, in its transformation of government functions, it also should be integrated and reflect this for the industry, sense of service for enterprises and service spirit?
I fought out from the grassroots. When 16-year-old worker in a factory for nine years, and later business, for two years. Grass-roots level, I can not have no feelings, the situation can not be of primary concern is not, this is a natural emotion. Although tourism enterprises I have not done directly, but something in business management are interlinked. In the factory, I can achieve this level,
A product, a work site, I glance, immediately know what the problem. Tourism business is the same, but need a little more familiar with the situation, to see things a little more, deeper. The most important point here is to see you are not concerned about the business, from a business perspective to the problem. Management Division of the reason why I scolded suffer less, this is an important reason. I find people to talk about things that they meet the policy, not two, then positive to do, even if not accomplish, but also trying to explain why people can not accomplish, but also for his ideas, and strive to accomplishing. Thus, it is not accomplishing, people can understand. In this regard, I told the Secretary in the other comrades made it very clear: "the fault of the rest of you I can tolerate, however, localities and enterprises come to work, you put on bureaucratic airs here, I can not stand." Seat of power in a little a long time people are likely to blur, do not know others in this respect he was respecting the seat. Because of my experience of this life, I consider these issues and more concerned about the grass roots. So talk with business people, the total comes to corporate topic of concern. Concern because people are always concerns you, you always talk about the topic and the topic of everyone's attention, therefore, we are willing to tell you. In fact, standing on the macro-management point of view, layer by layer down to, what issues concern layer which will naturally together, and it is natural to form some of the macro view. As for the issue of government functions, is still difficult, it's difficult concept. We already accustomed to hard to throw away the traditional management concepts and management tools. Institutional reform, decoupling between government and enterprises, including the Association of adjustment, the central step that moves a few steps further than the tight, forcing the functions of government agencies had to convert, nothing in this organization you must cancel. However, this transformation of government functions is indeed more difficult, the original set of methods used to die, they do not recognize the new way, Gordon does not come out. In this era, many new things need to create, if not a profound understanding of things, they create it out. The functions of the conversion, the content is definitely less and less manageable, especially micro-management of the content will be less and less, while the macro-management will be strengthened. This does not mean do not the means of administration. Government is the basic means of administrative measures, administrative measures not no where the key is to control what should be clear. There is a saying the original evaluation of the ministries in charge, "nine-foot energy management, energy management a sub-world." As a minister, should be very effort to control the world, it in fact can not, because some of the ministries also have their own subordinate enterprises and institutions to control, control their own feet to spend energy, time and more, the functions of the corresponding ministries of industry to be greatly weakened. Tube foot of the effort is spent and more, this work is not competent ministries. Should not control, control bad things are in the pipe, and the tube and be able to manage a good thing but no matter. Therefore, the State Department's institutional reform, transformation of functions is a very wise decision, but for now, want to completely change over 三下五除二 is unlikely, this requires a process. Now the macro-management of some distorted state, on the surface are in place, in fact, not fully in place, no place is the function key is not in place. In my opinion, the real transformation of government functions have been two generations of effort.
Reporter: Policy and Regulation Department have a lot of work related to the tourism industry development policy, the industry is very concerned about this, can you please talk about the work currently being done what?
We do have three major tasks. First of all, we're doing work on two industrial development. First, the need to systematically demonstrate how to build tourist destination, how to travel power, and how economic growth from the development of pillar industry of national economy. Currently, we are doing on this issue report needs to articulate substantive arguments, but in fact the subject is by no means a report that can be covered by the support of this theme should be a book, with a system to prove the book; also includes China's tourism industry in the international competitiveness of the evaluation and other industries in the country and the competitiveness between the evaluation. Second, the national tourism industry policy. This work has been done a long time, originally planned to be introduced in late 1999, but the national debt Economic and Trade Commission of Industrial Policy busy work, so the tourism industry policy-making had to back up. Development of industrial development policy is a major event industry, the industry is indeed good. Our numerous experiences of finding State Economic and Trade Industrial Policy on this matter, they are deeply touched and said "rarely see a department for the industry got the idea of industrial policy so we admire the spirit of your work, and actively support you."
Secondly, the travel regulations of the building. Although a lot of effort, the recent introduction of "Tourism Law" is still no hope. In August 1998, I went back to the Secretary policies and regulations to visit the first thing after the State Council Legislative Affairs Office, Bureau of Legislative Affairs and comrades on "Tourism Law" project, but so far little progress. We now have more than 20 provinces and cities issued a comprehensive travel regulations, which is equivalent to the provincial level, tourism law, does our 31 provinces have issued a travel law, the country's tourism Dafa be introduced? That guide how to reflect? Our current thinking is to strive to "Travel Act" introduced in early work will continue to do, but may wish to re-adjust the legislative ideas. The main consideration is to manage the original method, it now appears, the more management law, the greater the difficulty of the introduction, so now the idea is to promote the law a mess, mess, or a comprehensive industry regulations. The first is to have the content to promote tourism development, including promotion of tourism development policy content, to make policy up to the height of the law; second is to have management aspects; Third, there must be coordination related to tourism those rights and interests of civil law, commercial law and other aspects. To operate at three levels so, "Travel Law" will be a comprehensive law, not a mere department of law. We hope the comprehensive nature of the NPC Law direct project, drafting. At the same time, we are also accelerating the development of those industries related to the development of the State Council regulations pace. Is seeking to "tourism accommodation industry regulations," the project, if successful, can solve many problems in the development of the industry. "Guide Regulations" is important, but at best 10 million to tourism industry issues, and the "tourist accommodation industry regulations" Once developed, we can solve the problem of 100 million people. Now the legislative process is very long, according to the previous operating cycle, if the winter and next spring to project, three years before the introduction. In fact, the text itself is not complicated, cumbersome to coordinate views, which is actually a department of the coordination process the balance of powers process, but also a process of redistribution of power to the relevant departments. In short, we consider a two-pronged, through various forms, a variety of ways, striving for the "Travel Act" project; the same time, the State Council should actively seek to develop regulations to achieve. Worrying is that now more and more problems of law enforcement, law enforcement system is still not appropriate to establish a sound. National Tourism Administration in 1998 to do a few period of travel law enforcement classes, made a tour enforcement permits, are all to do over, but the problems in this regard reflects the still relatively large. Again, the tourism statistics. In this regard, we now form some of the big ideas, of course, it is very difficult to do, but once the breakthrough will make a fundamental change in the tourism industry. The first step is to fight for the tourism statistical indicators system into which the entire national economic accounting system. We now perform the travel survey system called the National Tourism Survey system has been incorporated into national statistical office. Although the state system, but not the formation of things into national economic accounting system. Some economists, statisticians, many of the other corners of the industry's research into the problems, why he can not study so much an emerging tourism industry? The reason is simple, no data. We now say they do not recognize the data, because there is no formally incorporated into national economic accounting system, so now that we are our own tourism industry this all day long about how good that how good, how have the advantage, how to have potential. If this problem is not solved, in fact, not as a tourist power also stand up tourism as a pillar industry of national economy also does not stand up. Another problem associated with this is that if at this point to a breakthrough, we can further statistics of the contribution of tourism to the national economy, that we should pull the power of tourism on economic growth gradually quantified. For example, the foreign trade sector can be said that economic growth in 1998, 7.8 percentage points in a point is driven trade, construction sector can be said that there are 7.8 percentage points from 1.7 points in the real estate driven. We say 7.8 percentage points in a point is a tourist pull it? We can only say that 4.32% of GDP. What is "equivalent", strictly speaking circles in the national accounts is not you, you and others cling to the outside circle. Therefore, it is imperative to establish the contribution of tourism to the national economy this indicator. To establish this indicator is difficult, where the first thing needed is a basic theoretical research and breakthroughs. Statistical theory is now based on tourism research article also minimal. Yesterday, the People's University professor called and said they recently set up a more internationally competitive center, want to take the tourism industry as a pilot to study the international competitiveness of the tourism industry. I said, "Well, we are studying this matter." However, the majority of our study is limited feature articles, feature article, analysis is by the addition cases to illustrate the problem, there is no system, a solid foundation of statistical theory, this is the case alone can not explain, because any one industry can be used Case
For their own good. There is also a tourism statistics and how our current national economic accounting system integration issues.
In addition to the specific work, policies and regulations of the Secretary there are many daily work. There are only four publications on the compilation of the central "tour
Travel News ", the local Tourism Bureau's" tourist information "on the industry," Tourism Research ", and an internal, provided by the Secretary for" research reference. " Workload, the pressure is also large, forcing the boys we Law Department to work overtime every day, are overloaded.
Reporter: We are faced with new 21st century, you can look ahead at the new century, China's tourism development prospects?
Last week, the bureau set up associations to discuss the national tourism working conference of the main report (second draft), to discuss the details of the time does not rigidly adhere to the study, mainly to discuss ideas. This will open exciting too, was clearly a big idea is that over the past 20 years of development, we have become a tourist destination, in the next 20 years we want to build a travel power. Internationally, we travel from country to travel great power; in the country than with the industry, we need economic growth point status to become a new pillar industries. Now out of the third draft of the basic tone in accordance to write this. If these two words can be unchanging, and can be industry-wide acceptance, I think this should be the next century, China's tourism development in a very clear idea. Various aspects of the work around these two words can do the article. From the development prospects, said two words to seize the issue I think is enough.
没有评论:
发表评论